Heather is in between apartments and Kathy talks about her history with photography.

• Deborah Rae Nelson
• Opposable Thumbs Podcast
• Heather’s photo influence, Katie’s Pencil Box

Heather and Kathy talk about their eventful weekends. Kathy has been traveling, and Heather is getting ready for a move.

• Kathy’s Wheel of Time conference in Atlanta
• Ana and Kathy picture
• The Pen Addict Kickstarter, Chicago Event
• John Siracusa, inventor of follow up
• Hypercritical, John’s show where he invented follow up
• Kaitlyn Jewelry images Image One Image Two Image Three
• Kaitlyn’s Instagram
• Australian care package
• Kathy and Avi eating unicorn cookie
• Heather’s favorite Internet studios
  • Casey Neistat
  • Tom Sachs, 10 Bullets
  • Adam Savage on Tested
  • Oliver Jeffers
  • Mac Premo
  • Jessica Hiche

Kathy and Heather get back on the horse after a couple weeks of sickness and exhausting road trips to chat about lots of mini topics and the April 2017 ArtSnacks box.

• Avi’s egg hunt
• 99% Invisible Ep: Atmospherians
• Pet Wifi Camera
• Anke Weckmann, all her pens video
• Caroline Weaver was on the Pen Addict
• April 2017 ArtSnacks Box

Heather and Kathy channel their inner middle school girls to talk about kitty cats, birthday parties, and gel pens.

• Reconcilable Differences
• Sign Lettering Documentary
• Art History Babes Podcast
• Tweet from Leslie about The Great Mother
• The Great Mother
• CW Pencils on water color pencils
• Gel Pen History

Heather and Kathy discuss the fundamentals of human color perception and the history of color reproduction in dyes and pigments.

• ATP “Real Programmer” Discussion
• Buzzfeed Color Facts
• Radiolab Color Episode
• Why isn’t the Sky blue?
• Through the Language Glass, By Guy Deutscher
• Why the Mantis Shrimp is my New Favorite Animal
• Wiki Article, Natural Dyes
• Pigments through the Ages
• Very Cool Color Timeline
• Poison Poison Colors
• Kathy’s Sketchnoting of the episode